How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

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ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

How do great movie moments influence how people handle real-life moral dilemmas?

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

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I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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CONCLUSION:

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I am like a fish out of water,

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ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

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To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Why is there no evidence of a multiverse theory?

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

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ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

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We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Do you remember one day, you put a deep smile on someone's face and made them very happy?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

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Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Kabir (a weaver)

NOW…

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Sain (a barber)

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Now here in this verse

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

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The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.